Please help, angry as hell?

Please help, angry as hell? Topic: Buy papers please
July 24, 2019 / By Adele
Question: So, I'll try to keep this as short as I can, but there may be some venting becuase i'm really pissed off. So when I bought my horse last July, he is a registered solid paint horse (registered with the APHA), he didn't have papers though becuase the people had originally sold him to someone else before me. That guy who bought him was on a payment plan and they gave him the horse before the payments were done. He in turn ripped them off and refused to pay. They went and took the horse physically back and caused a lot of said drama. I in turn bought him a couple months later, the a**hole still has the papers though. I finally got a hold of his number and stuff, and nicely called him telling him that I own Bandit, and I would be willing to mail him stamps if he could please send me the registration papers. He was trying to rip me off saying he would only send them to me for a couple hundred bucks. I kept my cool and was trying to understand why he was acting like such a dbag. He just goes "I don't like the way this conversation is going" and started YELLING at me, saying that the whole deal ripped him off, and unless I pay him I'm not getting the papers, and we got in a big fight, he hung up on me, like a adolescent child. I don't have a bill of sale or anything on my horse, and I obviously don't have the papers. I could get a bill of sale though if that would help anything. How in the world is it possible (if it even is) to get papers on my horse throught the APHA if this guy won't be willing to even have a humane conversation? I'm like rageful, that guy was such a jerk, and all I want to know is a few things about my horse, he wouldn't even read them to me over the phone. What do you guys suggest? :( the owners I bought him from don't have a problem. and the one guys doesn't want the horse back, he's just being a dbag. he doesn't even know my name or where my horse is.
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Tayler Tayler | 8 days ago
Definitely get a bill of sale. If he's that much of a d-bag and has the horse's papers in hand, that puts you in a vulnerable situation. Then get in touch with a representative of the APHA and explain the situation. They may be able to help you either get new papers or have an idea as to how to get the other guy to surrender the originals. Once you have the bill of sale and you know the previous owners are on your side, you could also probably bring suit against the guy who has the papers since he's withholding something that does not belong to him, since he did not buy the horse or the papers (essentially attempted to steal the horse, and DID steal the papers which are a significant part of the horse's value).
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Tayler Originally Answered: Why am I angry?
Some things to think about: 1. You could have a chemical imbalance in the brain, or you could have a hormonal balance, two very different things but both can affect your mood. Make an appointment with your family physician and discuss this with them so that they can better assess what is going on with you. They can take blood to test your hormonal levels, as well as the overall function of your other organs. If it is a chemical imbalance in the brain, they may prescribe medication to calm you like an antidepressant, for example. 2. You may also be simply undergoing a tremendous amount of stress and change in your life and this is making you more prone to anger. Maybe things are not going your way as much as you like, and so you feel frustrated about it. Or perhaps you are not sure where you are going in your life, especially when you compare yourself to your peers. It could be any number of things, so if it is troubling you perhaps you could find a counselor to help you sort out your issues. Talking to someone who is objective (and not a family member or a friend) really helps us to sort out our problems and figure things out. There is always a root cause to anger, however. Depression, frustration and disappointment lead us in that direction and it is hard to pull out of it at times, especially when we have tried hard to pull ourselves out of that space. Believe me I have been there at times and it is very hard to deal with. Some things I learned in life may help: 1. Anger affects your overall body functions and puts stress on its systems, such as your heart and your immune system. The more angry you get the more you are setting the stage for illness. We don't think about this when we are young because we think we are invincible, but this is not the case. Our bodies are sensitive instruments and our moods will affect how it operates. 2. Perpetual anger affects our self esteem. Simply put, the more anger you have the more likely you are to have low self esteem. It becomes a perpetual cycle from which you can't escape, unless you address the root cause. 3. Anger affects our relationships. We all get angry from time to time, but if we are constantly in that space people will withdraw from you. If you are blaming others for your problems or screaming at them for the slightest thing, people will come to fear you. 4. If your anger is so intense and obsessional (as in thinking about it all day) perhaps you might consider working it through in an anger management forum so you learn how to control it. It is important to understand that anger is a normal emotion unless it gets out of control and begins to affect all areas of your life: work, family, school, etc. There are always going to be days when things don't necessarily go our way, or days when people really piss us off or when the slightest thing sets us off, like the cat or dog peeing on the floor. Things happen. But investing your energy in constant anger will only distract you from the important things in life - your family, your job, school, your relationships - and it is simply not worth it. Why? Because life is too short and investing in this is a waste of your life energy. Try distracting yourself when you feel this way. Take a walk as a way to start exercising. Exercising raises the endorphin levels in the brain, and this definitely elevates our moods. Think about the positive things in life that you have achieved, as well as the things you enjoy in life, however simplistic they are. Watch your favorite silly movie, or read a good book. Realize that these things do pass and there is always tomorrow. Usually tomorrow is usually a lot better than yesterday.

Peter Peter
I'd suggest contacting someone from APHA and telling them your story. I too have a horse that came without papers because of some tangled up deal the prev owners made. But since I have zero plans on showing or selling him, I don't care. So....unless you're going to show or sell him later on....forget the papers. If you're going to show and need the papers or going to sell him later on and need them....then speak with the people who sold him to you, ask for a bill of sale and get it notarized. Also....use that to go to the brand inspector (regardless if the horse has a brand or not).....the inspector will take his picture and write down his markings, etc....and your name will be on that I.D. Card for your horse. So, in a sense, you have some way of proving (if you cross state lines for example) that he's YOUR horse. There might be a way to get the papers anyway, if you can prove you bought him legally through APHA....or there might not be. Talk to them about it. See what they say and base your next move on that. It sucks when people are jerks, but since the lugnuts gave up the papers before getting all their money....they basically screwed themselves and you.
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Luther Luther
Go on APHA.com, you can get extra copies sent to you as long as you can prove that you bought him. I hope this works out!!! That guy sounds like a real jerk, that's why I don't do payment plans unless I know the people extremely well.
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Jeff Jeff
Good God, why would you take the horse and not get a bill of sale? The former owners can say you stole him!!! Get one NOW!
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Jeff Originally Answered: Would you be angry about this?
Hi there Rebekah. And sorry to hear about the situation you are in. It sounds very familiar to what my husband goes Thur with his brother minus the age difference. I deal with this too on a smaller scale with my sister. There are 13 years between she and I. We both get gifts from mom, but she always gets the better. I normally don't say anything. I guess its not my nature unless its hurting someone else I love. In your case I think I would have to say something. I don't think its about the gifts or money with you. I have answered back and forth with you so much I think I know what you are trying to say. It's the idea. And it hurts. He is thinking about his 'new' family and not about you or your loved ones. He is hurting you and your loved ones. IF he could not afford it, thats one thing. But to give to others and not you/your loved ones is rude. Tell him you are hurt by this. Explain to him that its not the gifts you care about, but the idea that your family doesn't seem as important as his new family and this shows by his words and actions. If nothing comes of your talk with him and he doesn't seem to still care take a 'dad break'... Don't call for a while... don't go around for a bit. Maybe he will think then about the fact that he did hurt you? I don't know... Just a suggestion. I take 'dad breaks' occasionally. It always works out. Good luck to you!! P.S. One day late (wink ;) Think lots of baby dust for me... I will think good thoughts for you and your family, as always. Lyn

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